Royal Mail Post Box For Sale



Somerset, UK - A reader asked where outdoors can she put her old Royal Mail postbox or pillar box? Are there laws, rules and regulations on siting antique postabilia? How near to the boundary can it be positioned?
Thirty years ago advice to salvage yard customers was that a decommissioned post box could only be put on private property in a spot where it could not be seen from a road or footpath. Nowadays some dealers tell prospective customers that an old post box can be sited anywhere on private property provided the enamel signs stating collection times have been removed. Which advice is correct?
Jenny Karlsson from the British Postal Museum told SalvoNEWS that it is not true that the collection plate can simply be removed and the box put anywhere. She said that if the box is in a public place then the opening should be blocked and the box painted a colour other than red, usually white, black or sometimes grey. On private land reuse is acceptable provided the box is not be accessible to the public easily, for example within a walled garden. To site a wall-mounted postbox on the edge of a property where it could be accessed and used by the public would not be acceptable. There would also be the question of planning permission if it was on public land. Royal Mail have assumed planning permission for boxes under the Town and Country Planning Act but this does not apply to boxes in private hands. Finally, she said, English Heritage now state that postboxes should remain in use wherever possible so Royal Mail would not be selling boxes generally. Obviously those that are now out in the public domain after being sold years ago are different. When Royal Mail sold boxes in the past they drew up a contract of sale that enshrined certain conditions.
Helen Crabtree at the Letter Box Study Group told SalvoNEWS that the Royal Mail used to sell post and pillar boxes under terms which dictated how and where they would be used. The sale contract stated that the postbox must not under any circumstances be sited so as to confuse a member of the public that it was a genuine Royal Mail postbox. If it was within sight or reach of a public highway, it had to be either painted a different colour or have a notice attached which stated that it was not for use by the general public, or it must not be lockable. It was regarded a crime tantamount to fraud to site a private postbox within reach of the public which could be used by them for posting mail. Lastly, the terms stated that should the new owner of an ex-Royal Mail postbox who no longer wished to keep it had to offer it back to Royal Mail for first refusal before any subsequent resale.
We spoke to one of Royal Mail's Regional Requisitioner (tel 0844 800 9191) who looks after several UK counties and who said that, although there used to be sale conditions attached to reuse of a postbox or pillar box, there were no laws attached to reuse unless its position confused a member of the public into placing their mail into that box. He said that he had been a requisitioner for 25 years and had to intervene only three times when a private postbox was causing problems, and each case was resolved amicably by repositioning the postbox without resorting to legal action.
He told SalvoNEWS that the Royal Mail's red paint colour was copyright, so technically anyone painting or repainting a postbox with that colour technically could sued by Royal Mail for breach of copyright, although to his knowledge this had never happened. He also said that Royal Mail no longer sells off postboxes or pillar boxes because they might be needed for cannibalising or replacing existing postboxes.
Even though the Royal Mail may no longer be selling them, there are still plenty of originals around, although prices are steadily rising and Chinese and other reproductions are readily available, many at salvage yards. A dealer told SalvoNEWS that Chinese reproduction postboxes can be spotted because they are not as well fettled as the originals and often use steel components instead of cast iron.
Last year around 20 postboxes were for sale at the Salvo Fair, mostly antique post boxes on Chiltern Antiques stand. There are also several wall-mounted and post-mounted postboxes and pillars boxes on the Salvo online marketplace, many for sale by UK Architectural Antiques, a Salvo Code dealer in Staffordshire. Find their full contact details in the Salvo online dealer directory.

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Until 2003, it was possible to buy redundant boxes direct from Royal Mail. However, with the adoption of a blanket 'listing' policy jointly by English Heritage and Royal Mail, the process was halted. Today, boxes are either re-sited, scrapped or stored for further use. In special circumstances, a box may be donated to a bona fide museum if no further use can be found for it. Today the best places to find old boxes are in reclamation yards and on internet auction sites - although extreme care must be exercised to avoid handling stolen boxes or modern replicas posing as authentic historic items. You should expect to pay several hundreds of pounds for any genuine box, and these days, several thousand pounds for a genuine pillar box of any era, far more for rarer boxes.

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Over the past few years, more and more replica post boxes have appeared on the UK market. Some of these are appalling things that resemble nothing to be seen on our streets! They are often made from old gas bottles - easily spotted as the are far too narrow. However, fairly good copies in cast iron and sheet steel of the standard 1940 pattern lamp boxes are now commonplace. These are harder to spot. Look for GviR boxes with 'Carron Company' on the door, or with four fixing lugs on the outer edges of the front casting. These are completely wrong for the period. The EiiR copy is much harder to tell apart. The real giveaway on all these copies is the circular barrel lock instead of the traditional Chubb five lever lock. The earlier 'Hovis' top lamp box has also been copied and is sold in E7R, GR and VR versions. The lock comments above also apply to these and also there are two fixing screws beneath the aperture which should be flat head. On the copies, these are cross-heads. No crosshead screws in 1897! Always challenge the seller to prove that the box is genuinely old and not a copy.

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STOLEN BOXES

Unfortunately this has become quite a problem in recent years. If a box is locked shut, with no key and especially if it still carries a modern Royal Mail plastic collection times plate DO NOT TOUCH IT. It is most probably stolen.

We are often asked 'Where can I get my own Post Box?'. It is not that easy, but these dealers are a good starting point:

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Below Stairs -a well known antiques dealer in Hungerford. Will export

Unicorn Kiosks - The largest telephone kiosk reclamation centre in the UK, sometimes has boxes

Fagin's Antiques- Large reclamation yard near Exeter often has old boxes

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Wells Reclamation - a large yard in Somerset has some (mostly pillar) boxes

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UK Architectural Antiques - Specialist yard in Staffordshire - lists post boxes in Ebay Shop, prices are the tip end, but excellent stock

Salvo Web is the web portal for the UK Architectural Salvage community with links to many dealers

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Occasionally, we dispose of postal-related items which are surplus to our needs. These may include collection plates, time tablets or other parts no longer required for restoration. In addition we stock an excellent range of Shire Library publications covering post boxes, telephone kiosks and other street furniture. These are available by mail order.